God test for atheists
„I have never seen the slightest scientific proof of the religious ideas of heaven and hell, of future life for individuals, or of a personal God.” - Thomas A. Edison
„You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe.” - Carl Sagan
„By simple common sense I don't believe in God, in none.” - Charlie Chaplin
„What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.” - Christopher Hitchens
„If only God would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit in my name at a Swiss bank.” - Woody Allen
MY DEAR ATHEIST FRIEND!
Well,
here's the challenge: Go into a room so that no one can see you, and
prove to those outside the room who can't see you that you
exist.
Proving God exists is the same as proving you exist
in the room. If you cannot give evidence of yourself, though you
certainly are, you cannot give evidence of God, though he is. So your
lack of evidence is insufficient in both cases. But if you have
evidence of yourself, you have evidence of God, the two are
connected!
You cannot do anything that God does not do.
For example, you cannot shout out of the room, "Hello, I'm in
the room," because God doesn't shout loudly to mankind from
above, "Hello, people, I'm up here in the sky invisible, can you
hear my voice? God does not prove himself in this way.
My atheist friend, don't call anybody on the phone,
because God doesn't call anybody. Don't bang on the door, for God
doesn't bang on any door. God only doesn't let those who bang on his
door with their fists near him.
Even if you put a blank
piece of paper under the door, it is not evidence of you, because the
wind blew in through the open window and it slipped out from under
the door. Don't put a photograph out either, because God doesn't show
a photograph of himself. So you can't do anything that God doesn't
do. Don't forget that for a moment. You are in the room, but you have
to find the non-false proof of your own existence.
You
say, "I think, therefore I am. That's good enough for me."-
That's not a good answer, because even if God says that, He's not
proving Himself to outsiders that He exists. But you have to prove to
outsiders that you are in the room, even though they can't see you.
You don't have to prove it to yourself, you have to prove it to
others. In the same way, atheists ask believers to prove that
God exists.
If I say God thinks, therefore he exists, you
get a big laugh at it with your shoulder, satanic grin. So that is
not a good answer, that thinking is sufficient proof. Just because a
person is thinking inside the room is not proof to outsiders that he
is inside the room.
So the question is how does an atheist
prove his own existence from inside a room where no one can see
him?
The key to the invisible existence of God is the key
to your invisible existence. If you give evidence of yourself, you
can discover that God has given the same evidence of himself. You
have to find that evidence of what it is. Because you are in the room
and God is in the spirit world. Both are invisible to outsiders.
„How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge? Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you. Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded; But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof: I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you. Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me: For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the Lord: They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof. Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices. For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them. But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.” (Proverbs 1:22-33, KJV)
Man's choice is not the result of God's omniscience.
Rolling the thought further, if one is in a room where no one can see and has no effect on the outside environment, but assumes or even knows that some people are expected to pass in the hallway outside the door who have no idea that the person is inside, how can the outsider say that they could not have done otherwise than to leave before the door because the one in the room knew in advance that they were going to leave. So there was nothing else I could do. Only by his foreknowledge he had already influenced my free will, so I could do nothing else but go before the door, because he who was in the room knew in advance that I was going to leave? Not at all, the two have nothing to do with each other!
The atheist says the same thing, he couldn't help but become an atheist, because God knows in advance that he will become an atheist, because he doesn't have the faith in Him, because he is incapable of it. But God is responsible for this, that although he knew beforehand that he would become an unbeliever, he created him. If he did not know, he is not omnipotent. So God's omniscience disproves free will, that it does not exist. That's what the game is all about.
Atheism is proof of free will, that they have chosen this worldview and not the Christian faith.
The only problem is that an atheist's choice is completely independent of God's thinking, because God is not nudging him to become an atheist, he wants him to convert to the opposite."For he wants all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth." (1Timothy 2:4) To which the atheist replies that he cannot repent because God knew beforehand that he would not repent, so he can do nothing but remain an atheist.
Clearly, there is a logical trap being set for God here, in which His foreknowledge prevents any free will action, i.e., He is responsible for any action of anyone that He foreknows. And because of foreknowledge, no one can do anything other than what is dictated to him by foreknowledge.
This notion is false because going forward in the corridor is absolutely independent of what someone in the room thinks, whether someone will go down the corridor or not. Especially if you are leaving and happen to stumble just outside the door and break your neck.
It's fair to ask: what if the police come and ask you if you know anything about the death and you say, I expected some people to pass my door and they'll hold you responsible for not telling me in advance? Hello! Those of you who have passed my door, don't break your necks, watch your step! I don't think the police are going to arrest him for that.
A man walking down the corridor has free will, regardless of what anyone thinks of him. The two have absolutely nothing to do with each other. The atheist decides for himself what he does and why, as is evident from the fact that there are so many different ways of thinking about how to run his life. The logical stumbling block is in their reasoning, and that they tripped up and broke their necks just outside the door is entirely their fault, no one else's. Especially that there was a sign at the beginning of the corridor: watch your step!
"He that believeth on him shall not be condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." (John 3:18)
What
God knows in advance about whom has nothing to do with what man
chooses. If there were no free will, there would be no A la Carte
menu in restaurants, only menus, and only one kind of menu.
The
atheist wants to put the responsibility of his choice on God, that he
could do nothing else, because he is only doing what God knows in
advance he will do. It's just a question of how does the man walking
down the hall know what the man in the room thinks?
If
the atheist decides in advance what he will do, that is his business.
God only takes note of what he has thought, from which it can be
deduced what he will do.
If he is very stubborn in his
disobedience to God, God can harden his heart, as He hardened the
heart of Pharaoh of Egypt who resisted God's will to let the people
of Israel go. (Exodus 3:19; 5:2; 7:3) So if someone acts wickedly
against God, God will harden his heart in his wickedness!!!
"The Lord is able to deliver the righteous from temptation, and to reserve the wicked for punishment in the day of judgment." (2 Peter 2:9)
The atheist is told to let go of his denial of God, not to cling to it, for it will not end well. But he clings to it all the more. And he blames God for his own evil deeds. Because it is not his fault.
But
it's all his fault. He may be influenced by his immediate or wider
environment, but he makes the final decision. Faith without evidence
is pinned on believers to distract attention from the unproven
unbelief hanging around their necks.
The god question is a
choice of heart and mind, one chooses the position one holds in one's
mind and heart.
"Surely with your eyes you will see the punishment of the wicked! For [thou hast said], The Lord /YHVH/ is my refuge: thou hast chosen the Most High to be thy tabernacle: ... Because he clings to me, I will deliver him, I will exalt him, because he knows my name! He calleth me to help him, therefore will I hear him: I will be with him in his warfare: I will deliver him, and glorify him. I will satisfy him with long life, and will show him my salvation." (Psalms 91:8-9, 14-16)
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